• Points of Controversy

18.1 Of the Buddha and this World

Controverted Point: That it is not right to say ā€œThe Exalted Buddha lived in the world of mankindā€.

Theravādin: But are there not shrines, parks, settlements, villages, towns, kingdoms, countries mentioned by the Buddha? And was he not born at Lumbinī, super-enlightened under the Bodhi tree? Was not the Norm-wheel set rolling by him at Benares? Did he not renounce the will to live at the Chāpāla shrine? Did he not complete existence at Kusinārā?

Moreover, was it not said by the Exalted One:

ā€œBhikkhus, I was once staying at Ukkaį¹­į¹­hā in the Subhaga Wood by the King's-Sāl Tree … I was once staying at Uruvelā by the Goatherds' Banyan before I was super-enlightened … I was once staying at Rājagaha in the Bamboo Wood at the Squirrels' Feeding-ground … I was once staying at SāvatthÄ« in Jeta's Wood, Anāthapiį¹‡įøaka's Park … I was once staying at VesālÄ« in the Great Wood at the Gable House Hallā€?

Surely then the Exalted Buddha lived among men.

Vetulyaka: But did not the Exalted One say,

ā€œborn in the world, enlightened in the world, live, having overcome the world, undefiled by the worldā€?

Hence it is surely not right to say ā€œThe Exalted Buddha lived in the world of mankindā€.