• Points of Controversy

7.3 Of Mental Properties

Controverted Point: That they do not exist.

Theravādin: You surely do not also deny that some mental phenomena are concomitant, co-existent, conjoined with consciousness, have their genesis and cessation, physical basis and object in common with it? Why then exclude the ā€œmentalā€? Contact, for instance, is co-existent with consciousness; hence it is a ā€œmentalā€, i.e., a property or concomitant of mind. So are feeling, perception, volition, faith, energy, mindfulness, concentration, understanding, lust, hate, dullness,… indiscretion—all the ā€œmentalsā€.

Rājagirika, Siddhatthika: You allow then that what is co-existent with consciousness is a ā€œmentalā€. Do you equally admit that what is co-existent with contact is a ā€œcontactalā€, or that what is co-existent with each of those mental phenomena is to be analogously regarded; for instance, that what is co-existent with indiscretion is an ā€œindiscretionalā€?

Theravādin: Certainly. And if you assert that there are no mental phenomena corresponding to our term ā€œmentalsā€,

was it not said by the Exalted One:

ā€œYea! verily this mind and mental states
Are void of soul for one who understands.
Whoso discerns the low and high in both,
The seer, he knows that neither can endureā€?

Or again, was it not said by the Exalted One:

ā€œSuppose in this case, Kevaį¹­į¹­a, that a bhikkhu can make manifest the mind, and the mental property, and the direction and application of thought in other beings, other individuals, saying: Such is your mind. This is your mind. Thus and thus are you consciousā€?

Hence there is such a thing as a ā€œmentalā€ that is, a property, or concomitant, of consciousness or mind