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9. With Channa
With Channa
At one time the Buddha was staying near RÄjagaha, in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrelsā feeding ground.
Now at that time the venerables SÄriputta, MahÄcunda, and Channa were staying on the Vultureās Peak Mountain. Now at that time Venerable Channa was sick, suffering, gravely ill.
Then in the late afternoon, Venerable SÄriputta came out of retreat, went to Venerable MahÄcunda and said to him, āCome, Reverend Cunda, letās go to see Venerable Channa and ask about his illness.ā
āYes, reverend,ā replied MahÄcunda.
And then SÄriputta and MahÄcunda went to see Channa and sat down on the seats spread out. SÄriputta said to Channa: āI hope youāre keeping well, Reverend Channa; I hope youāre all right. I hope that your pain is fading, not growing, that its fading is evident, not its growing.ā
āReverend SÄriputta, Iām not keeping well, Iām not getting by. The pain is terrible and growing, not fading; its growing is evident, not its fading. The winds piercing my head are so severe, it feels like a strong man drilling into my head with a sharp point. The pain in my head is so severe, it feels like a strong man tightening a strong leather strap around my head. The winds slicing my belly are so severe, like a deft butcher or their apprentice were slicing open a cowsās belly with a sharp meat cleaver. The burning in my body is so severe, it feels like two strong men grabbing a weaker man by the arms to burn and scorch him on a pit of glowing coals. Iām not keeping well, Iām not getting by. The pain is terrible and growing, not fading; its growing is evident, not its fading.
Reverend SÄriputta, I shall commit suicide. I donāt wish to live.ā
āPlease donāt commit suicide! Venerable Channa, keep going! We want you to keep going.
If you donāt have any suitable food, weāll find it for you. If you donāt have suitable medicine, weāll find it for you. If you donāt have a capable carer, weāll find one for you.
Please donāt commit suicide! Venerable Channa, keep going! We want you to keep going.ā
āReverend SÄriputta, itās not that I donāt have suitable food; I do have suitable food. Itās not that I donāt have suitable medicine; I do have suitable medicine. Itās not that I donāt have a capable carer; I do have a capable carer.
Moreover, for a long time now I have served the Teacher with love, not without love. For it is proper for a disciple to serve the Teacher with love, not without love. You should remember this: āThe mendicant Channa will commit suicide blamelessly.āā
āIād like to ask Venerable Channa about a certain point, if youād take the time to answer.ā
āAsk, Reverend SÄriputta. When Iāve heard it Iāll know.ā
āReverend Channa, do you regard the eye, eye consciousness, and things knowable by eye consciousness in this way: āThis is mine, I am this, this is my selfā?
Do you regard the ear ⦠nose ⦠tongue ⦠body ⦠mind, mind consciousness, and things knowable by mind consciousness in this way: āThis is mine, I am this, this is my selfā?ā
āReverend SÄriputta, I regard the eye, eye consciousness, and things knowable by eye consciousness in this way: āThis is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self.ā
I regard the ear ⦠nose ⦠tongue ⦠body ⦠mind, mind consciousness, and things knowable by mind consciousness in this way: āThis is not mine, I am not this, this is not my selfā.ā
āReverend Channa, what have you seen, what have you directly known in these things that you regard them in this way: āThis is not mine, I am not this, this is not my selfā?ā
āReverend SÄriputta, after seeing cessation, after directly knowing cessation in these things I regard them in this way: āThis is not mine, I am not this, this is not my selfā.ā
When he said this, Venerable MahÄcunda said to Venerable Channa, āSo, Reverend Channa, you should regularly apply your mind well to this instruction of the Buddha:
āFor the dependent there is agitation. For the independent thereās no agitation. When thereās no agitation there is tranquility. When thereās tranquility thereās no inclination. When thereās no inclination, thereās no coming and going. When thereās no coming and going, thereās no passing away and reappearing. When thereās no passing away and reappearing, thereās no this life or the next or between the two. Just this is the end of suffering.āā
And when the venerables SÄriputta and MahÄcunda had given Venerable Channa this advice they rose from their seat and left. Not long after those venerables had left, Venerable Channa committed suicide.
Then SÄriputta went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him, āSir, Venerable Channa has committed suicide. Where has he been reborn in his next life?ā
āSÄriputta, didnāt the mendicant Channa declare his blamelessness to you personally?ā
āSir, there is a Vajjian village named Pubbajira. There Channa had families who were friendly, intimate, and hospitable.ā
āThe mendicant Channa did indeed have such families, SÄriputta. But this is not enough for me to call someone āblameworthyā. When someone lays down this body and takes up another body, I call them āblameworthyā. But the mendicant Channa did no such thing.
You should remember this: āThe mendicant Channa committed suicide blamelessly.āā
